Article and Interview by Elise Cooper
The Girl with the List by Shari J. Ryan is a powerful story that shows the emotional and physical cruelty of the Nazis. The plot has Rosalie Kaufman and Stefan Selig trying to fight for survival while in the Auschwitz concentration camp.
This novel is told from the perspectives of Rosalie and Stefan where chapters alternate back and forth between them and their time in Auschwitz and the times before and early in the war.
Rosalie and Stefan meet when she becomes the midwife for his mom during a challenging pregnancy. While living together within the same household they grow very close and fall in love. But when the Nazis come to their small Polish town, they are separated.
She is forced to become the midwife, nanny, and assistant to SS officer Weyman, who is stationed at Auschwitz. Rosalie is made to aid the Nazi officer not only in their home, but in the camp deciding the fate of the lined-up prisoners as fit or unfit for work. Fit prisoners were sent to the factories and farms to work, while the unfit were eliminated.
Then one morning as the prisoners are lined up, she stares into the eyes of the man she fell in love with, Stefan. Rosalie had to endure Weyman’s psychological torments by using her morality, ethics, and compassion for others against her. She knows Stefan has epilepsy and is very weak from hunger but day in and day out she still marks him as fit. Rosalie risks her life to keep him alive.
Readers will be completely invested in both Rosalie’s and Stefan’s stories. They will anxiously be turning the pages to find out what happens to these characters and will they get a happy ending. Anyone who reads one Shari J. Ryan book will automatically want to read the next book.
Elise Cooper: Why write about the Holocaust?
Shari J. Ryan: I had family who survived the Holocaust, my grandmother and great grandmother. The rest of my family did not. This is the reason I have been writing books focused on the Holocaust. The stories resemble people they were associated with or others that experienced similar journeys. The material found is factual with the characters fictional.
EC: How did you get the idea for this story?
SJR: I am focused on those servants who were taken to serve the SS and their families in their homes, outside of Auschwitz. This inspired Rosalie’s story. She was forced by the SS officer Weyman to follow his directions. Stefan’s story was inspired by a disability he had.
EC: This book discusses the cruelty of the Kapos, Jews who served the Nazis?
SJR: Yes, sometimes they were crueler than the Nazis and were motivated by getting more food and other things. They did it for self-survival. I have read books that discuss what it would take for someone to survive and how can they live with themselves after.
EC: The Nazi family members living outside of Auschwitz had to know something?
SJR: Lotte, Weyman’s wife, represented those who played dumb. Anyone in that situation had to know enough and it was a matter of maintaining a façade. What played a big part of my thoughts, ‘how could you not know your husband is doing this?’ In the book Lotte says, “Rank must be determined by the number of innocent lives killed.” She knew and stayed quiet to maintain her own safety, the silent wife. She wanted to preserve a life for her and her children until she could find a way out.
EC: Do you think Rosalie played God? The famous line during Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, says who shall live and who shall die will be determined?
SJR: I do think it will haunt her forever. Her motivation was to save people. But know Weyman made her choose who shall live and who shall die. There really were people in Auschwitz who had to do this inhumane decision. Rosalie had to determine who was fit to live and unfit to live.
EC: How would you describe Rosalie?
SJR: She was nicknamed ‘the girl who saves babies,’ because she was a midwife for pregnant women. She is quiet, defiant, sarcastic, impatient, brave, and caring. Once the Nazis took over, she was a slave laborer.
EC: How would you describe Stefan?
SJR: He is Jewish, charming, resourceful, funny, and has epilepsy. Once at Auschwitz he becomes dehydrated, exhausted, hungry, and strives to protect Rosalie. The protectiveness is more of an emotional journey for him and a physical journey for her.
EC: How did religion play within the relationship?
SJR: Rosalie tells him, “I greatly admire the Jewish faith-your pride of culture and tradition, strength and perseverance.” To build on a relationship there must be understanding of both sides. She was not really raised with a strong sense of religion. For her, this was her first taste of a strong faith and what Stefan’s family believed in, and why they believed in it. She was getting a front row view that gave her a sense of belonging since both her parents died.
EC: What about their relationship?
SJR: She feels whoever she loves dies. She feels she failed him repeatedly as she kept him alive. She was going against the grain, fighting for him. She felt she left him vulnerable and had a lot of self-blame. In my mind she blamed herself for her mother’s death, a response to the trauma she saw.
EC: How would you describe the SS officer Weyman?
SJR: He is a killer, cruel, evil, manipulative, uncaring, savage, inhumane, feels power is pride. His attitude was the Jews need to be wiped from the earth.
EC: Was the doctor in the story Mengele?
SJR: Yes, even though I did not mention him by name. He had experimentations, Eugenics, sterilizations, and thought that those with diseases like Stefan’s epilepsy should be killed or sterilized. He was cruel and I did a lot of research on prisoners which I wish I could erase from my brain as I did my research.
EC: Next book?
SJR: It will be Celina’s story who was a servant for a family of an SS officer who was at Auschwitz. She was hiding her Jewish faith and has a loved one. Her story takes place following the days of liberation. She survived after surviving. Her war was not over after liberation. It will be out in August of this year and is titled The Lost Husband.
EC: THANK YOU!!
